China’s 6th gen fighters are further along than the US’s F-47
How many of these china has? Speculated further development of fighters that aren’t operative yet is a better metric to compare war power than US outclassing any other country in military spending for decades?
The US is not destroying Russia
USA pretty much defeated russia in the cold war and they are slowly finishing them as you can see today.
No, not “next to,” at this point China has surpassed the US and Europe in manufacturing in all but a few specialized fields.
few specialized fields like war tech and industry which is what we are talking about.
Secondly, saying that NATO can’t field war against Russia doesn’t mean that NATO can’t try, or that Russia would single-handedly destroy all of NATO. Russia would win like Vietnam won against the US, by NATO failing to accomplish their goals without nuclear war.
Vietnam war was 60 years ago and nukes are older than that. War has evolved, USA wouldn’t need a single nuke to destroy russia they are already doing it with propaganda and the leverage they have on markets.
Chinese industry is some of the most advanced on the planet.
Yes next to america and europe. Your original claim i’m reply to is that “NATO can’t field an actual war against Russia”.
If you want we can compare NATO and russia/china combined and see who has the strongest army and biggest war capabilities.
Industrial level is lower in the US.
We are comparing NATO to russia. I’m talking about US because alone it overpower russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing#List_of_countries_by_manufacturing_output
Keep in mind that while chinese industry produces a lot it is not necessarily the most advanced.
Cost of living is higher in the US
Technological and industrial level is also higher in the US, expect a military widget manufactured there to be more advanced than one manufactured in a country where production is 10x cheaper.
This is true across all fields, plus the lack of industrialization means it’s more difficult to manufacture.
USA and europe do not lack industrialization.
Why are all of your goods made in China, Vietnam, etc?
Why are they not made in russia? They are made in china because it’s cheaper for western companies to produce there and because they can get away with such exploitation. Your goods aren’t military assets.
Why do you think it cost 10 times more to produce it in the USA? How many american and european engineers do you know that works in russia for 10x cheaper salary?
Assuming what you say is true should we move to compare war assets? What’s the russian counterpart to hundreds of F22 and the b2?
There’s also effectiveness, drones are cheap and can often achieve the same or better results than traditional ballistic missiles that cost more.
USA has been using military drones for more than two decades
you can find the same medicine in the US for hundreds of times the price as you can in Canada, as an alternative example.
You are messing up things. That’s the price the consumer pays for medicines because of a monopoly
Russia produces 4x the amount of artillery shells as all of NATO
Whatever USA is producing is 4x times more advanced than that.
SU 35 is half the cost of F35, with better flight availability.
Assuming we take for granted that a fourth generation plane is better than F35s, keep in mind that USA alone has more than 500 of these and hundreds of F22
Missile technology of Russia is far (at least 5 years) ahead of US
Russia technology is overall 10 years behind of US
Drone technology is Russia, China, Ukraine only capable.
USA started using military drones more than 20 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perdix_(drone)
US military spending is just corruption for political cronies.
I’m sure there’s plenty of corruption and any cent spent on military and war is useless. by not acknowledging USA war assets i think you are downplaying how trillions of public money are being wasted.
If the same thing is 10 times cheaper i would argue that the quality is not comparable. USA alone outpower any other country in war capacity and assets, if you add the the rest of NATO countries it sound like a joke to claim russia could match them.
Are you serious or joking?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
NATO outpower russia 10-1, they would easily win a war against them which is why they are seeking one.
USA has plenty of classified weapons we are not talking about. We are comparing assets we know of that already exists and that can be used to wage war today.