The U.S. will provide Ukraine with intelligence for long-range missile strikes on Russia’s energy infrastructure, American officials said

This post uses a gift link with a view count limit. If it runs out, an archived copy should eventually show up here

  • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    10 hours ago

    I hope this is true, but I have my reasons for not trusting the US.

    This should have been done in early 2022, threats and violence is the only things the russians understand (just at look at the history of russia and show me one major example of good faith behaviour on the part of the russians).

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I don’t trust the US on anything. I won’t refuse the intel, but if not corroborrated with NATO, I would assume Trump and Putin to be collaborating on fictional targets meant to waste limited long range strike capabilities.

      • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 hours ago

        Big energy infrastructure doesn’t move around much; you can validate it using commercial satellite images and open-source intelligence, and if it comes with the promised long-range missiles, it’s a very big deal.

        • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 hours ago

          you can validate it using commercial satellite images and open-source intelligence

          Then what Intel were the Americans providing in the first place?

          • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 hours ago

            What is easy to validate can be time-consuming to figure out in the first place. Plus per the article, the US will provide weapons capable of hitting the facilities.

          • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            9 hours ago

            Situational data and secret stockpiles and facilities. That’s the type of data the US could help with.

            • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              9 hours ago

              Can it be corroborated with NATO? I would like to think yes, as its purpose was defence against Russia, but I don’t really know.

            • Tuukka R@piefed.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              6 hours ago

              Nah. Nobody reasoned with him. He just got angry at Putin. He’s an animal of instincts and feelings, not one of logic. He does random things. A random decision can sometimes be good, sometimes bad.

              You cannot really say anything about the quality of a decision just from it being in the group of “decisions that can also be chosen randomly”.

    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      8 hours ago

      Who is “y’all” and what is “this”?

      For me, I want the war to end with Russia leaving Ukraine the hell alone. I’m not an expert on geopilicital military strategy, but it seems like the people fighting for Ukraine want any intel that helps them repel the invasion force. Striking within Russia’s borders might force Putin to withdraw and defend his own country rather than murdering civilians in another country.

      It might not work. It might ratchet up the violence, and it might result in the suffering and death of innocent people. I don’t want that, but I’m not in a position to say that “this” makes that outcome more or less likely.

      What is it that you want instead?