• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    5 days ago

    I hope both parties go the way of the Whigs, and that First Past the Post voting is replaced by something better. The leadership of both parties is rotten to the core.

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    5 days ago

    Oh, I wasn’t aware you guys were still doing those.

    In all seriousness, though, I wish you Americans the best.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      5 days ago

      Counterpoint: they learned fuck all 2016-20, they will learn fuck all 2024-28. The problem is real people will not feel the effects until years later, then they will blame anyone other than an old white guy.

      Look at all the shit Obama endured having to fix Bush’s mess.

      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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        Fix Bush’s mess? He doubled down on all of the worst excesses of Bush’s mess. Ramped up drone strikes, invaded more countries, renewed the patriot act, violated the war powers act by staying in Syria too long, tried to arrest Snowden. 2 more terms of bush would have looked identical.

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        5 days ago

        If Merrick Garland had been confirmed and Obama had convinced RBG to step down after the colon cancer diagnosis then maybe we would be in a better place right now.

        But that’s not what happened.

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      They don’t have legit elections anymore, and even if they did it doesn’t matter.

      The poll clearly shows Americans have a more favorable view of the Republicans than the democrats. What a pathetic country.

      Trumps 2nd term has had higher approval ratings. Let that sink in.

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        It’s because the democrats have become master-classes in supporting candidates that Republicans hate and everyone else can barely tolerate.

        It’s the fault of everyone who voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primary for why we now have 2 donald trump presidencies. These pieces of shit don’t want to pay more in taxes, so they’d rather have a fascist in office than a progressive.

        People say republicans deserve the day they voted for, but so does every other dipshit/moron voting against progressive policies.

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          4 days ago

          I am absolutely convinced that most democrats are working together with the Republicans.

          They lost both times on purpose. Nobody is dumb enough to run a candidate like Kamala.

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    5 days ago

    Yeah, but somehow it’ll be the democrats fault if the voters don’t turn up on polling day.

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      5 days ago

      I mean, yeah?? It’s the party’s job to rally the voters and get them to the polling station, is it not?

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          It’s party’s job to create so? worth investing in. Otherwise you are not investing, only stopping losses.

          • JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Voting for the Democrats is like keeping a fire extinguisher in your car. It’s annoying to take time out of your day every few years to replace it, and it won’t make your car any nicer to drive, but it will prevent an engine fire from ruining your livelihood.

            • ubergeek@lemmy.today
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              5 days ago

              Which party signed into law indefinite detention?

              I’ll give ya a hint: Obama.

              Dems aren’t the fire extinguisher, they are the niteoglycerin you store in the trunk.

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      6 days ago

      That would be a lot easier and more predictable way of doing things, but election or no election I believe popular will matters. Authoritarianism is a lot harder to do when the subjects are restless.

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        I believe popular will matters

        Last time a president won by a landslide was when Obama pretended that it does in 08. Then he governed as just another “moderate” and the myth died everywhere except in the minds of the chronically naive and/or uninformed and the willfully obtuse.

        Authoritarianism is a lot harder to do when the subjects are restless.

        Sure, but it’s still been the modus operandi for the US government forever. Being the richest nation with the most bloated military in the history of the world makes unpopular things MUCH easier to get away with.

        While overt fascism coming back is new, the US government has ALWAYS been authoritarian and the popular will has very rarely mattered more to its governance than “might makes right and rich makes mighty”.