The ex-Fox News host railed against decades of work to diversify the all-volunteer military as he announced initiatives to effectively exclude women from combat roles and relax protections against hazing and bullying of troops
More than 800 of America’s top military leaders sat silent and showed no reaction as ex-Fox News presenter turned Pentagon boss Pete Hegseth told them he was issuing a series of new directives that will make it harder for women to serve in combat and easier for personnel to engage in hazing and bullying without repercussions during an unprecedented gathering of flag-rank officers at a Marine Corps base in Virginia on Tuesday.
The Secretary of War — a title not used by the head of the U.S. military establishment since 1947 but revived by President Donald Trump earlier this month — told the group of admirals, generals, and their senior enlisted advisers he was “ending the war on warriors” and complained that too many of their peers had been put in their roles “for the wrong reasons” including their race and gender.
Standing in front of a large American flag backdrop, he attacked by name several of the leaders’ retired peers, telling them that the department’s “compass heading” was “clear.”
“Out with the Chiarelli, the McKenzies and the Milleys and in with the Stockdales the Schwartzkopfs and the Pattons,” he said, denigrating former Army Vice Chief of Staff General Peter Chiarelli, ex-U.S. Central Command commander and Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie Jr, and ex-Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman and Army General Mark Milley, each of whom has been critical of Trump or his administration.
“The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,” he added.
Hegseth also groused about efforts to open up combat roles to women and initiatives to “weed out so-called toxic leaders” and blamed “foolish and reckless” politicians for having “set the wrong compass” and causing the Pentagon to lose its way.
Hegseth, an Iraq War veteran who attained the rank of Major in the Army National Guard but became a critic of the Pentagon’s efforts to open up military service to women, racial minorities and LGBT+ persons, said the War Department must “restore a ruthless, dispassionate and common sense application of standards” that are “uniform, gender neutral and high.”
He told the assembled leaders he was issuing a directive to ensure that “every designated Combat Arms” role across all branches “returns to the highest male standard only,” all but reversing a 2015 directive from then-Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to open all combat roles to women.
“If you do not meet the male level physical standards for combat positions … it’s time for a new position or a new profession,” he said. “If women can make it excellent. If not, it is what it is. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it.”
The War Secretary also claimed — without offering evidence — that the Pentagon had lowered standards “to hit racial quotas as well” and said the revised standards he was promulgating are based on what he called the “1990 test,” which compares today’s standards to those in 1990, a time when women were barred from combat roles and LGBT+ persons were banned from serving.
“The 1990s test is simple. What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities? 1990s seems to be as good a place to start as any,” he said.
Its miniscule.
but I think after all those commanders getting corralled into what was essentially a coked out political campaign event. and listening to all the dumb shit that was said with 100% seriousness.
I think the chances of the Military doing a Coup against the US (Trump) Government, just rose from Zero, to nonzero.
I agree. I know it’s an unthinkable taboo. Civilian leadership has to be in charge of military leadership. But as has been pointed out many times, their loyalty is to the US and the Constitution, not any president. And the oath is to protect the US against enemies foreign and domestic. If Trump really wants to use the military against US citizens, he’s putting the military in an impossible situation.
I know it’s an unthinkable taboo
IDK, we’re basically seeing a more successful variant of The Business Plot rn
Who wants to step up and be Smedley Butler?
the Military command is already aware that it’s basically in a de-facto war with Russia and it will likely be with China in the next 10 years or less too. hell things with Russia could kick off for the worse any day.
and people like Kegsbreath are essentially trying to pivot the Military into fighting the Culture War, instead of fighting the real war thats starting to unfold.
Trump is already partially on the other side of that war. Waging war on the US on behalf of Russia would fit right in.
They know he’s a sycophantic ass clown but the government has them cowed enough to keep mum
This meeting could have been a signal chat
This meeting could have been skipped entirely. And doing so would have been less embarrassing for everyone.
Best not piss off the generals.
They so desperately wanted a standing ovation that breached military protocol but showed the deep, blind loyalty of the military to their piss-pot dictator. Their yearning is palpable.
What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities?
I would argue that the number is boots on the ground, the actual number of troops ready to deploy is probably the most militarily significant factor in any military in history. That said, if laws changed to allow LGBT+ citizens to take part in the military, that likely increases the number of people volunteering to serve by about 10%. That seems incredibly significant to me.
He’s literally a 12 year old trying to talk tough in a CoD lobby…
In a better timeline the top brass rushed the stage & pulled Kegseth apart like a chicken.
Is that something you typically do to chickens where you’re from?
When they start talking, yeah.
Opossum and fox tend to pull chickens apart if they get into the coop and then lthey eave the mess for me to clean up.
I wonder how generals feel about being told how to do their jobs by a major.
Who bankrupted several veterans organisations and dishonoured his marriage vows several tonnes
“Hey you fat fucks, none of this girl shit. We’re going to all do push-ups and jack off to the good kind of porn and get cool Hearts of Iron 4 tattoos and pray to the Real Jesus and any of you phony losers who complains can hit the fucking bricks! Now lets go fight some wars because we love peace!”
Punches the air
Chops crotch repeatedly
Tries to do a stage dive, hesitates, and walks it back pretending to look cool about it
Yeah, I can’t imagine why this fell flat.
I’m sure they are hyped, delighted, and filled with espirit de corps about all of this.
Espirit de coup d’état?
Esprit de Coup is my next punk album. Thank you.
And someone who was a major failure at being a military officer.
Starting to think the military may be the last hope of true allegiance to the flag.
Trump needs a war to declare martial law and then undermine elections. He can then claim he’s only doing what Zelenskyy has done.
Think we also saw this tried in South Korea didn’t we?
He can claim anything, but Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow elections during war. America’s does.
In the backdrop of this, does that even remotely matter?
It only matters insofar as the courts uphold that; and even if they do, Courts have no enforcement arm to ensure adherence.
This will ultimately rest on how much individual states or these military generals want to unilaterally push back.
Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow elections during war
Seems like a big flaw in the Constitution, given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that’s running a war this badly.
Ukraine is in a situation where a war is either being run well, or Ukraine doesn’t exit. There’s no real third option. The U.S., on the other hand, could run a war badly for decades with it’s wealth and geographic isolation propping it up.
Ukraine is in a situation where a war is either being run well, or Ukraine doesn’t exit.
If that’s your personal opinion, that’s fine and cool. The idea that nobody actually living in Ukraine gets to evaluate the quality of their leadership or the relative appeal of their civil ministers until some kind of peace accord is struck (with the presumable caveat that there can never be peace until the whole country is retaken, I guess?) leaves you with a country governed by military dictatorship indefinitely.
The U.S., on the other hand, could run a war badly for decades with it’s wealth and geographic isolation propping it up.
Aside from the more obvious reasons, the nagging fact that Bush didn’t pounce on 9/11 to make himself Prez 4 Lyfe suggests they weren’t properly prepared to exploit the attack for their own benefit.
But we’re looking at the wages of the Long War as we speak. All our wealth and geographic insulation isn’t saving us from the harsh economic realities of endless conflict. We’ve got a nation flush with unemployed veterans who are leaping at the chance to join the Trump Gestapo for a six figure salary. We’ve got an admin stuffed to the brim full of FOX News talking heads, because none of them have “Lost One Too Many Battles” branded on their resumes. Our economy is increasingly seven tech oligarchies in trench coats, trading the same trillion dollar check back and forth between them to give the appearance of growth, even as they’ve been laying off their best and brightest and consolidating their business around a model of digital landlordism.
All of this can be traced back to our decision to burn the livelihoods of millions of Americans and trillions in productive capital on an endless war. Trump is us paying the interest on that enormous debt.
And the only thing that kept us from getting to 2025 faster was twelve years of Presidents who gradually and painstakingly extracted us from those conflicts overseas. That was the value of the last twelve election cycles.
Ukraine doesn’t have our runway and its burning up a lot faster than the US did after 9/11. Plenty of people on the ground see this for what it is. The Ukraine that existed before 2022 (really, before 2014) is fully evaporated. What we have now is this husk, being torn at by two global military factions.
So maybe elections don’t really matter anymore anyway. Democracy in Ukraine died when the pogroms began.
Hard to say he’s running the war badly considering that Ukraine still exists 3 years later when most outside observers were wondering if Ukraine would last 3 days.
Ukraine still exists 3 years later
Iraq still exists, 22 years later. I guess Saddam did a great job.
Since the Iraqi military was either defeated on the battlefield or surrendered and US troops pulled Saddam out of a spider hole to drag him off for trial and execution, I’d call that a bad analogy.
Since the Iraqi military was either defeated on the battlefield or surrendered
Ukraine’s military has been whittled down to a nub. They’re relying almost entirely on equipment, support, and mercenary companies from NATO states at this point in the war. The Ukrainians still in the fight are largely unwilling conscripts picked up off the street and press-ganged into playing grenade tag with their Russian conscript counterparts.
But I guess Russia’s military isn’t able to capture celebrity comedian and professional t-shirt guy President Zelensky. So, yay! Winning?!
given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that’s running a war this badly.
What? David is holding his own against Goliath, but that’s “running a war this badly”?
David is holding his own against Goliath
If that’s the case, Zelensky will win in a landslide and be pronounced Kind of Judea.
He said the other day he doesn’t want to seek another term after the war is over.
Can’t blame him, I’d want out of it too if I were in his position.
He’s exhausted, his job is basically begging foreigners for money and weapons, and his family has been in hiding the whole war.
Netanyahu has made similar remarks.
But when the war never ends and there’s no election to campaign for, its an easy pledge to hold on to.
When your country is being invaded by a colonizer, elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly, at worst a guarantee for interference
elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly
Americans ran elections during the US Civil War in 1864. West Germany held elections in the middle of the Berlin Blockade in 1949. Give me a fucking break.
Badly? Even Trump, Putin’s good buddy, has said that he believes Ukraine can not just win, but take back all the territory that Russia took. So, how is that running a war “badly”?
Seems useful at the moment, given Russia’s penchant for election interference.
Moldova just elected an EU-friendly government in a landslide, despite perpetual claims of election interference.
Poland and Romania also just put up a staunch anti-Russian nationalists.
The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn’t born out over the last two years. Anti-Russia candidates are sweeping Eastern Europe.
The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn’t born out over the last two years.
Doesn’t mean they haven’t been trying
And the current leadership is incentivized to keep the war going, so they can stay in power.
So the whole “recalling all the generals home for a big meeting” was just “this could have been an email” media bluster.
Further evidence that Hegseth is an incompetent, drunk windbag.
From what I gathered, it was pretty much a dog and pony show intended to show the world that our military is stronk, otherwise it wouldn’t have been televised.
Hey, at-the-moment allied military member here, your military has gotten worse since the Russians started calling the shots.
I was worried it would be a purge or briefing for invading Greenland or some shit
He feared for it to get caught in a spam filter.
Fr fr, gather everyone just to say “shave yur head” lol, what a clowns
I mean, there was tons of “we’re invading American Cities and Fighting the Enemy within” bullshit too.
That all camp come from trump though, right? I didnt watch 100% of the hegseth part, but i dont recall him saying anything like that
I admit I only know the highlights. It would make sense for Hegseth to focus on appearances over substance.
To be fair they’re silent because, the room was called to attention. When you’re at attention, you don’t clap, you stand still at attention.
Trump gave them permission to clap if they wished. I take it as something of a good sign that none of them broke norms and joined in.
It’s probably more a sign of their discipline. Some of them might have even been tricked to react when they weren’t supposed to in boot camp. I only saw one guy a actuay clap at the end of the video.
Fuck that one guy with a pineapple then
Hegseth is such an insecure piece of shit just like his boss. What a fucking colossal waste of time and money for what was essentially a YouTube rant with homoerotic undertones about “male-level performance”.
I’d be laughing more if Trump and Hegseth weren’t actively looking to do their own version of Tiananmen Square.
What an insecure putz.
I really, really hope that Hegseth takes his “war on beards” bullshit and tries to force the “Tier 1” / Special Mission Unit people to shave their beards and meet his grooming standards.
If he really wants a war on beards, he can go after Vance’s wife.