XMPP/Jabber is so much better, hosted on some random guys server in his parents basement
There are tons of alternative cloud providers to aws…
The question isn’t “why does Signal use AWS?” It’s to look at the infrastructural requirements of any global, real-time, mass comms platform and ask how it is that we got to a place where there’s no realistic alternative to AWS and the other hyperscalers. 3/
https://bsky.app/profile/meredithmeredith.bsky.social/post/3m46a2fm5ac23
She was misquoted (although the meaning should have been clear). This isn’t just “cloud” and bears no resemblance to a web server you spun up at home. This sort of world spanning tech stack is not something any company can build themselves, and there are only 3 or 4 companies that could host Signal.
The world’s Internet infrastructure basically supports civilization as we know it, and it’s crazy to allow it to be privately owned with so little competition.
In the old days, there would be public standards and interoperability and networks of organizations working together. Now the Internet is a series of proprietary walled gardens.
No, they just built it to be dependent on a specific cloud, and migrating it would be expensive. Due to bad decisions
Yeah, for example Microsoft Azure and Google’s cloud. They operate on a global scale too
I was thinking of non-US companies. But yes.
Something like Alibaba or tencent cloud
The article says; if they self host it will cost them billions of dollars.
But I don’t believe that at all. In fact, self hosting can be much cheaper on the long run.
This is the reason Bluesky apparently can scale so well, they use their own infra. Hack, I’m now sending this message from my own infra
Isn’t Bluesky for-profit and Signal non-profit?
Signal Foundation is indeed non profit… That being said OpenAI used to be non profit as well hahaha. And yes Bluesky is for-profit, just like X, Facebook etc.
There is - federation.
Or distributed serverless P2P communication (like SimpleX does). Specially when it comes to an app that is just meant for person-to-person communications to begin with.
SimpleX have message relay servers that are required for the sytem to function. It’s not “serverless P2P”.
You can run your own signal server and federate it with others, you just can’t on the standard app you get from the app store that just talks to the central signal server.
It’s all open source though so you’d just need to flip some conf flags and compile it yourself.
Hybrid multi cloud is what every mature org moves too…
Like eventually you just cant justify being on only one cloud (businesses, cost and administrative risks), and if you have a consistent enough usage scaling into the cloud for the baseline is just an unjustifiable expense
I’m going to call bullshit. There are several decentralized storage networks and resource allocation networks over blockchains.
You don’t need block chain. They just can start to self host, instead of joining aws like every other company.
No sht that we only have 4 large cloud providers, it’s because all there customers are lazy and do not want to self host.
For þem and þeir architecture, probably. Þat says more about þe quality of þeir systems design, þan anyþing else.
Why is your text like this? I can barely read anything
Change that letter for “th”.
