Official response of the Discourse moderators: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/on-discourse-rules-about-politics/66986
The mods say that the mistake was in the misinterpretation of “queer” as a slur (because it used to be a slur), but they also mention that they privately discussed with the new user to convince them to remove a trans flag from the profile… and the mods didn’t really explain in the response why this happened…?
As always, read the response to make your own judgement.
'Politics: This topic has caused serious problems in the past and as such is subject to tight control. Discussion of the politics of open source it permissible in the lounge.
Ah yes, the 2 sexualities: Straight and political
Thanks! I’m going to reuse this.
At least they are admitting it was wrong instead of doubling down
I don’t see where the mods made them change it. (Edit: I see it now. If you check the edit history on the post, it shows who made the edits, in this case it was DIscourse mod wild_man.)
Also, why is this a link to reddit?
The post on Mastodon has a screenshot of the post edit history:
And a copy-pasted response from a moderator (the most relevant bit):
So in my opinion, if your intention was to show political support for diversity, you should avoid using this flag. This will allow us to refuse the use of a flag for instance saying ‘non-queer’, If we allow your flag, then we have to admit also other similar political flags, both supporting and opposing diversity.
“If we allow your flag, then we have to admit also other similar political flags, both supporting and opposing diversity.”
Consider the following: no, they don’t.
Crazy statement, if we accept the gays we should accept the nazis too.
Sure, up to the point where they harass someone or attack them, or have a history of doing so. A belief of “I think some people do not deserve to exist” is different from a belief of “People should be allowed to X” or “People who Y should not be harassed”. A nazi sympathizer who thinks nazis shouldn’t be attacked is fine, a nazi who attacks others is not.
Nah, fuck nazis. They don’t deserve to exist.
I agree in principle, but you’re not going to win any battles with that mindset. They’ll just respond with “so much for the tolerant left”. Victimization is a beloved pastime for them.
A brick is approaching a Nazi’s teeth from an initial distance of 10m horizontally and a velocity of 10m/s. You may assume the absence of air resistance and treat the brick as a point mass.
Calculate the initial angle(s) required to remove the most teeth and determine whether the Nazi can complain about the tolerant left before a brick removes their ability to speak.
People unironicly think being trans is a political statement. People are really dumb.
But there aren’t any political flags on there…
As a queer trans woman, I’m glad I switched to Fedora.
Reddit flagged this as inaccurate and the mod added this:
The issue was never with the poster’s self identification. The Ubuntu Community Council have been contacted and have been discussing the issue since Friday it happened.
The Ubuntu Community Council rarely comments publicly when complaints are dealt with, but the moderation team is welcome to do so.
Because I am on the Ubuntu Community Council and have been working on this issue, I am unable to comment further at this time.
That doesn’t make sense. The only change to the comment was to remove part of their statement of identity.
So “we’re not taking an anti-queer ‘Don’t say gay’ stance”
It’s inaccurate mis-information, our official policy "We don’t comment publicly about policies and complaints our official stance is ‘no comments’ "
I’m calling this a “big ouf” moment
The original content was restored and a comment made by a mod underneath the profile page of the guy says this :
The original text of this topic has been restored. The moderator action was a mistake and not reflective of the Ubuntu Diversity Policy 6.
As stated within the policy “…we explicitly honour diversity in age, culture, ethnicity, genotype, gender identity or expression, language, national origin, neurotype, phenotype, political beliefs, profession, race, religion, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, subculture and technical ability.” The Ubuntu community is for everyone.
reads like a stereotypically canned HR message.
What wording would you have them use?
did you respond to the wrong comment?
Chat, please write an apology that clarifies Diversity Policy 15 and assures the reader that as a company we are not homophobic. Please use a professional, courteous tone and limit the response to 500 characters or less.
That’s a great idea! Here’s an apology that clarifies Diversity Policy 15, assuring the reader that the company is not homophobic, using a professional, courteous tone, limited to 500 characters or less:
We’d like to apologize for the incident. According to Diversity Policy 15, [company name] does not discriminate based on sexuality — this incident waInternal Error
