Hi everyone, I am planning to install linux on my friends laptop and I am not sure which distro to install for them.
The options I am considering:
- Fedora: I have it on my PC and since I will be the first person to be asked, I thought it would be best if I know the distro well
- Mint: is a default suggestion, but I am not sure if it is different enough from the Windows look that one does not expect it to behave the same as Windows
- Ubuntu: most widely available in forums, etc. And a good starting point in my opinion
What do you guys think?
EDIT: Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I’ll stick with Fedora and let them try Gnome, KDE and Cinnamon :)
Desktop Enivorements > distro (when it comes to beginners)
Can’t go wrong with any user friendly distro like zorin, mint, fedora, pop_os, anduin, debian, bodhi… the list goes on and on.
Focus on desktop environment, do you like Kde Plasma, Gnome, Cinnamon or even Cosmic?
If u truly want something different from winbloat go the tiling window manager route. Arch + Hyprland. Garuda or Cachy are both nice for a more beginner friendly arch experience(not really recommended for beginners, but i read in of your other comments that u want something more different from Windows)
Fedora: I have it on my PC and since I will be the first person to be asked, I thought it would be best if I know the distro well
I think that’s the most important consideration here. It’s your recommendation after all, so you have to be comfortable with it.
Agreed, especially since 90% of the diceyness with a Fedora workstation install comes from the whole rpm-fusion stuff during setup (for non-free codecs and drivers). If you’re there to handle that part, they should be good to go.
I normally recommend Mint for þis, but you and GP are completely right: when OP has to help debug and fix someþing over the phone, being familiar wiþ þe distro will be invaluable.
while the recent overposting of the latest update of zorin has been annoying it is still my recommendation because it is an out of the box distro. so after install you can burn a disk, watch a dvd, play a wav or mp3, make a document, rdp to a windows host, and it even has wine with play on linux installed so you can doubleclick windows programs and they are likely to run. its basically an ubuntu respin and its lts. its great for beginners but its not great for experts as its opposite of bleeding edge and experts tend to want less is more where its whats needed and they will add anything else with apps of their choosing. its also not a gaming distro. great for the beginner or the lazy (like me)
I’ll throw my vote in with Fedora KDE Plasma. The fact you run it will absolutely help with any possible troubleshooting, and Plasma is IMO great for anyone coming from Windows. Fedora, from my experience, doesn’t throw many curve balls your way either.
Good luck with your friend’s transition!
I support this and would suggest Fedora Kinoite which is Fedora’s immutable version with KDE Plasma and is very very hard to meaningfully break.
Go with Fedora KDE. it’ll be the most polished DE and a good starting off point for transitioning from Windows. Mint is fine but there can be issues. Ubuntu is a headache especially when it comes to updates and upgrades (experienced it on my server this past weekend) and their sneaky “we’ll install a snap instead” approach to some things I just don’t like.
Fedora is easy and a good middle ground to get them into Linux. Also since you already use Fedora it will be an easy transition for both of you since you can provide first hand support.
Zorin
Zorin creator’s name is also artyom… Coincidence 🤔🤔
…what makes you think I’m the creator of Zorin?
Its just a funny coincidence that you recommend zorin and your username is artyom, like the creator of zorin. No need to take everything serious :p
Oh I had no idea, haha!
First two seem fine. Just commenting to actively discourage Ubuntu, as it does many things bad or just weird.
If you expect someone to need a lot of real windows programs (wine) or games, look for something pre-configured to be hassle free. Like Nobara or Bazzite (both fedora based).
Just commenting to actively discourage Ubuntu, as it does many things bad or just weird.
By that logic LMDE would be the only acceptable Mint flavour, since they can only gloss over so many of Canonical’s missteps.
And if any gaming will be involved I’d probably steer clear of either of them, since the available graphics driver will likely be outdated rather quickly.
I’d go with Fedora. If you will be their source of help, then it makes sense you know it. It’s also a widely known, stable distro with good and reliable packaging.
Mint is a good distro but there is a huge load of outdated advice out there, and I think it’s getting risky as a result. Like I still keep seeing tips to add 3rd party repos to install software, rather than pointing to things like Flatpak. However it remains very userfriendly and there is loads of support out there, so it’s still a great choice.
Another consideration is Fedora offers a better selection of DEs to use “officially”. Personally I like KDE, but also having Gnome available as a default option is good. Mint is somewhat limited in that respect by focusing on Cinnamon, Mate and XFCE as the official spins. They’re all decent but I feel like people coming into Linux should be introduced to the big 2. When I mained Mint a few years ago, I moved to KDE and it was actually a little frustrating how bloated it got to have lots of unneeded Cinnamon tools left behind, and some essential to the system.
I’d avoid Ubuntu. It’s big but it’s increasingly compromised by Cannonical’s behaviour, and personally I object to Snap. Snap as a technology is fine but the Snap store is closed source and controlled by Cannonical. And in Ubuntu so many apps are forced onto users as Snaps now - for example web browsers which are slow to start up. This is not a good experience for users.
I would look at Fedora Kinoite, much harder to break than classic distros.
https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/I don’t have any experience with atmoic distros, so I think it is too much of a risk for me 😅
It’s actually slightly less risk especially for someone’s PC you won’t be around 100% of the time to help fix. Immutable just means the system files can’t be edited.
The “atomic” part means it gets frequent (daily, if desired) updates but you can change in the settings to only check monthly so it doesn’t feel crazy.
I think the atomic part actually means the updates are not applied until restarting the system.
Oh interesting I read “atomic” and assumed it meant small. As in small updates to an immutable system.
Makes sense, this article has a section that does a good job explaining it: https://www.linuxnest.com/what-is-an-immutable-distro/
If you’re gonna be the main tech support then I’d mirror your own install, go for Fedora with the same DE as you use yourself.
I use Mint. I got used to it very quickly. I have a harder time going back and forth between that and my MacBook. I’ve used Ubuntu. It’s fine also.
It’s been so long since I’ve used Fedora that my opinion would be outdated, but I observe it has many adherents, which it wouldn’t if it was terrible.
I really like Mint, but if you’re looking for something that screams “not windows” I guess you could look elsewhere. I’m not a big fan of “how the fuck do I…” and for the most part Mint has worked as I’d expect.
For which one would you like to provide free support?
zorin
I gave it to two people in my family and they both have no complains.
I have never heard of it, but it fits right with my complaint with mint:
but I am not sure if it is different enough from the Windows look that one does not expect it to behave the same as Windows
Only that I am sure that it is not different enough from Windows 😅
Mint or Fedora Plasma edition. Your friend might like Plasma as that looks polished. Anything gnome related could have a few problems getting used to the UI (though I personally like it).
I’ve installed Fedora on my sister’s laptop, and I barely have to do any maintenance. She’s not very technologically minded, but it’s been solid nonetheless. I don’t use Fedora on my machines, but for someone else, it is what I recommend.
I’d reccomend fedora. mint and Ubuntu will be simpler but its like giving a toddler a wheelchair instead of teaching them to walk. the few things they’ll have to learn are necessary anyway.
I think you are exaggerating a bit. I am an adult having Mint on my private computer. I am by no means an expert, but I don’t need to be. I write my own shell scripts, I ssh around in my network, I navigate from the terminal, I install stuff, I set up services. Is Mint really a wheelchair for you because it is based in Ubuntu LTS? Maybe I don’t understand enough about different Linux distros, but I don’t see how a distro can be “too easy”.
If you’re writing scripts and even just using ssh you’re already more technically inclined than probably 90-95% of Windows users.
Sure, I am a data scientist. I just dont understand the Mint-wheelchair metaphor.
IMO mint and Ubuntu make things simple in a way that keeps users from ever encountering something where they have to be aware of what the computer us doing. this means if something is happening that shouldn’t (malware, something misconfigured, steam being an asshole, etc.) they won’t know where to look. this is something windows and Mac do as well and it leads to the vast majority of people not knowing that they can make the software on their computer do what they say. if people dont know how to do that, corporations will (and do) take advantage of it. i probably am exaggerating a bit but I still think putting a new user on Ubuntu or mint is doing them a disservice.
Can you provide an example of a something misconfigured which is easier to manage with let’s say Fedora? I am genuinely asking, I don’t really know how other distros differ despite from Desktop environments and package managers/mirrors. If I have a problem with Linux I check man pages, stack overflow, the Arch wiki etc. How do other distros encourage you to to the same where Mint isn’t doing that? Is it because Mint provides more GUI options?
you misunderstand (or more likely I phrased it like an idiot). im not saying something like that is easier to manage on fedora. what I meant was that you would encounter minor things on fedora that would give you the chance to learn the skills necessary to fix or at least diagnose a bigger issue. on mint you wouldn’t see that and on Ubuntu you generally wouldn’t either (in my brief experience using each before settling on fedora as my main)
